1 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,720 I sold drugs. 2 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,640 I had always sold a little weed 3 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,840 in order to pay for the weed I smoked, 4 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,520 and when I left home 5 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,280 I saw that as a way of making money and earning that little extra. 6 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,480 Then I began to buy more. 7 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,400 One thing led to another and I began to sell more. 8 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,560 I became a professional criminal. 9 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,080 So police started looking at me differently. 10 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,560 I started trying every drug I sold. 11 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,880 I skipped that rule: "Don't get high on your own supply" 12 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,080 and I got high on everything. 13 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,600 I started financing my addiction myself. 14 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,800 I used the savings account that my parents had opened for me. 15 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:23,760 I had some hundred thousand crowns that would be mine when I was 18. 16 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,920 I went through that money like water. 17 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,880 Then I started to commit crimes in order to be able 18 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,880 to finance my addiction. 19 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,440 That's because I used expensive drugs from the beginning. 20 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Cocaine is very expensive. 21 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,240 That is why I started committing felonies very soon, 22 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,320 up to the point that I finished off my fine Stureplan quarter's life 23 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,880 and I began to shoot up. I began to shoot up amphetamine 24 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,880 in order to get the same high that you get with cocaine. 25 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,240 Then I ruined myself completely. 26 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:05,760 I shoot up for the first time when I was 24. I felt in heaven. 27 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,160 It was cheap 28 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,240 and the experience of shooting up was a completely different thing. 29 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,520 I stopped partying. 30 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,160 That was a whole another level. 31 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,520 It was much dirtier. I don't know how to put it. 32 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:31,760 You spent your days in Plattan... and then you ended up in jail. 33 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,080 When I first came to Sweden I lived in Stockholm. 34 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,600 But after some time, as my parents got divorced, 35 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,920 my mother moved to Skåne. 36 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,880 and I also moved to Skåne with my mom and my sisters. 37 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,040 It was not easy for my mom. 38 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,880 And... 39 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,560 the rules at home became pretty lax. 40 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,360 We could do whatever we wanted, 41 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,920 but I understand my mom. 42 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,760 She had to endure a divorce and an exile. It was hard for her. 43 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:03,960 When I was 15 I had already travelled around the world, 44 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,160 I had slept in luxury hotels, I had eaten in 5-stars places. 45 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,760 I come from a family that was... 46 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,600 It's not that we were rich, but we had pretty enough money. 47 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Let's say we were up-middle class. 48 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:21,920 I grew up in that environment and I had a peaceful childhood. 49 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,760 My parents were not abusive, I was never exposed to violence, 50 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,840 as it is the case with many boys and girls 51 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,120 who end up the way I ended up, so to say. 52 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,920 The situation got better with time. 53 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,120 He also came to visit us. 54 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:46,560 But my father went to jail when I was around 12. 55 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,640 He was sentenced to 13 years. 56 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,920 Everything changed with the fact of me having to visit my dad in jail 57 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,480 until he was deported. 58 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,960 When I finished... So that's how my life as a criminal began. 59 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,880 Everything started with this. First of all... 60 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,120 being the son of a divorced couple, 61 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,480 I didn't fit in school and I learnt to pretend that I was sick. 62 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,440 I and the people that I hanged around with used to do things 63 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,920 that started getting me into trouble. 64 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,920 Trouble that I could find home. 65 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,680 My father is dead. He was self-employed. 66 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:47,480 My mom stayed at home. She had never worked. 67 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,400 My father used to run a clothing shop 68 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,560 and he had a family business where my sisters worked. 69 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,880 I am the youngest of four sisters. 70 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,640 I am much younger than them, so I grew up with mom and dad. 71 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,640 My sisters had left home. 72 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,760 Everything started in a pretty innocent way. 73 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,360 But it grew bigger and bigger. We started... 74 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,960 by breaking into... 75 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,120 places, like schools or wherever we could, and we stole little things 76 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,760 and we got into fights, but not in an organized way. 77 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,640 We were not that old. We used to break into cars 78 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,800 in order to steal the car radios and sell them... 79 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,360 Just innocent things that we did in the beginning. 80 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,240 Then I left home and... 81 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,440 I was 16 when I started taking drugs, 82 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,600 ecstasy and the like, and alcohol, for the first time. 83 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,640 That was what I always pursued: to feel pleasure. 84 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,240 I spent two years like that, trying a little of this and that. 85 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,640 But then, when I was 18... I usually describe myself 86 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,440 as a bomb that exploded. 87 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,000 I avoided my family completely. 88 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,840 I didn't want anything to do with them 89 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,760 and I started working in some joints as a barwoman 90 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,680 and I got some training as a waitress 91 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,080 and that's when everything started. 92 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,520 There were a lot of cocaine and alcohol around. 93 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,280 There were big parties every day. 94 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Nothing comparable to what came afterwards, 95 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,760 but there were many after-parties in Stureplan 96 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,400 where we sat down snorting coke for five days in a row. 97 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:45,960 But I had, let's say, a principle or a value deep inside of me, 98 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,640 and that was that I'd never allow myself to become a prostitute, 99 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,680 which is unfortunately pretty common among those using heroin. 100 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,600 I managed to keep myself away from the streets. 101 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,080 I kept shifting from drug to drug, 102 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,480 and unfortunately I used different drugs 103 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,200 until I ended up in jail, and it was a relief, 104 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,600 because I was a wreck, I was a fucking wreck. 105 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,240 I've got a total of 14 convictions. 106 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,000 Many of them were for assault, and for a little bit of everything. 107 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,920 My name is Sara Woldu and I am 33 years-old. 108 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,960 I come from a family 109 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:33,280 where it's not normal for a girl to have a background like mine. 110 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,200 My name is Jacob Fraiman and I come originally from Chile. 111 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,400 I came to live in Sweden when I was 7 years-old. 112 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,440 I grew up in a healthy environment. 113 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,800 The first time I went to jail it was very different 114 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:24,560 from the rest of times, especially from the last one. 115 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,920 The first time I was very scared. 116 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,520 I was a young girl who had never been in jail. 117 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,320 I was very nervous and scared and I thought 118 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,320 that those broads were going to beat me up. 119 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,320 But I did not dare to show that, so I hid behind 120 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,360 a big mask and I pretended to be distant and indifferent, 121 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,200 although I felt like a very little girl inside. 122 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:00,560 The first time I was convicted I got two and a half years. 123 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,960 That was between 2003 and 2005. When I went out in 2005 124 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,880 I had not gotten enough skills, as we call it, 125 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,160 from the therapies, and so on. 126 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,240 I thought it would be alright as long as I found a job 127 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,760 and a girlfriend... 128 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,040 and then... 129 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,400 I wouldn't use drugs, but I'd drink, because I didn't see that as a drug. 130 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:30,040 I thought that everything was OK, that I could drink and stuff. 131 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,000 But that doesn't work with me. I am a dependent person, and if I drink, 132 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,760 I feel like scoring something else, so that's how it goes. 133 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,320 I relapsed into drugs again. 134 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,000 Stuff happened because of that. It had consequences. 135 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,560 I broke up with my girlfriend. 136 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,360 And in the end, I came back to the same place. 137 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,160 I came back to jail in 2010. I was sentenced to five years. 138 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,600 I spent five years in prison 139 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,080 because of many things that had happened in my life. 140 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,320 But I had also reached, 141 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,440 really, 142 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,640 to a point when enough was enough. 143 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,000 It was almost a good thing to come back to jail 144 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,200 because I was fed up. 145 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Also because I got along better in jail than I did in society. 146 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,000 I had so many problems with police 147 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,960 and I was so stressed up that jail felt almost like a relief. 148 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,800 It is also obvious how difficult it is to kick the habit 149 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,960 and to come off drugs. 150 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:55,160 But in jail I could have a break and take things easy. 151 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,440 The last time that I was in prison 152 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,800 it felt like home, "I am home again." 153 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Because that was quite common in my last years of addiction. 154 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,400 I went out and I went in again. Out and in again. 155 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,200 My name is Pernilla Jensen. I am a prison officer 156 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:39,440 in the Asptuna prison. Among my duties 157 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,040 are working with the inmates, helping in the infirmary 158 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,400 and managing our workflow and our administrative issues. 159 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,720 There are all kinds of people here, people that will serve a month 160 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,520 for driving offences and people sentenced 161 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,480 to life imprisonment for murder. 162 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,080 Right now we have nobody sentenced to life, but we usually have. 163 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,960 The tricky thing of our role 164 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,080 is that we must guard and treat them at the same time, 165 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,560 and that makes it very difficult. But here in Asptuna we have 166 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,120 inmates who do their duties pretty well, 167 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,160 so it happens that we... 168 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,440 win their trust by trusting them. 169 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:36,320 We ask them to take responsibility for themselves and for their things. 170 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Not everybody succeeds in doing so, but most of them do. 171 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,680 That makes them mature also. 172 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,640 If someone wants just to serve his sentence 173 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,480 he will have no reasons to complain in a Swedish prison. 174 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,200 The staff doesn't beat us. 175 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,240 They feed us. You can train. 176 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,640 People can serve their sentences without changing at all, 177 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,480 so it's really comfortable to be in a Swedish prison. 178 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,720 Then it depends very much on how you are, as a person, 179 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,040 to have or not the will to change. 180 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,160 I don't believe in storing people. You cannot just store people. 181 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,080 I believe in transformation and in treatment. 182 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,760 That's what has worked for me. 183 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,080 There are prison systems 184 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,880 that I don't believe in, you cannot just put people away, 185 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:38,720 because that generates an enormous hate against the system, 186 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,840 to just put people in jail and isolate them. 187 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:45,080 May I say something? Some years ago there was 188 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,200 this TV commercial for some perfume that went, 189 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:52,840 "The first impression lasts." 190 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,360 You ought to be humble. 191 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,160 A person who works in prison with a uniform 192 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,640 does not convey more authority or trust 193 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,680 than the one who works in prison without a uniform. 194 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,080 In my opinion, 195 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,400 it is our behavior... what generates trust. 196 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,320 In our daily conversations with the inmates, 197 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,880 to be humble is very important. 198 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,800 To be glad. Often, even a bit too glad. 199 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,360 To introduce yourself quickly: "Hi, I'm your contact person." 200 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,480 And then maybe give them some space in the beginning. 201 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,000 You must give them some time for adaptation. 202 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,760 You must make a little effort. 203 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,200 That's very important. 204 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,960 My name is Martin Folkesson and I am a prison officer, 205 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:47,320 I mean, I am in charge 206 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,040 of the treatment section in the prison of Norrtälje. 207 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,600 We have people in therapies, but there's also room for youngsters 208 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,200 with ADHD who need psychiatric cares. 209 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,760 We don't force the inmates to do anything 210 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,920 because forcing someone to do something 211 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,360 it's a little "mission impossible". 212 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,960 If someone wants me to give up smoking 213 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,840 he will not succeed if I don't want to. 214 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,640 But two of a prison officer's duties 215 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,480 are to identify the inmates' problems 216 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,280 and to talk with the inmates about their needs. 217 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,360 To have motivational talks with them. One may be 218 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,280 unmotivated today, but he may change and understand it the next week. 219 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:44,800 I am Jennie von Alten and I am the director 220 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,360 of the prison of Norrtälje, and I'm in charge 221 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,560 of everything: our staff, our budget and our inmates. 222 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,040 A whole section works in our treatment program, 223 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,680 which is connected to the program's development. 224 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Our program is accredited, 225 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:05,120 it is grounded in scientific studies and in research 226 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,880 in order to have an observable effect and to prevent recidivism. 227 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,000 So we evaluate it constantly 228 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,320 and we have experts devoted to this. 229 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,760 We can assure you that we believe in reintegration. 230 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,160 Our methods are based on politics, 231 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,400 on research and on experience. 232 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,600 So I think that we do work for our inmates' reintegration. 233 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,640 My day begins when I come from work and I go to bed. 234 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,760 So it's really... 235 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:38,480 The opposite of what everybody does. 236 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,200 Sweden is ready to work 237 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:52,120 for welcoming back the people who are willing to reintegrate. 238 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,600 Sweden is ready to adopt programs from anywhere in the world 239 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,200 that might help to achieve that goal. 240 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,080 That's part of my job. I have no problem with that. 241 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,160 Here we are. I work in a prison 242 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,640 where people want to change their lives, 243 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,200 where people really want to participate in a program 244 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,720 that will help them to reintegrate. 245 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,040 I can guarantee there are people here 246 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,680 who are prepared, capable and ready to help them. 247 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,920 The rules are very clear, and I like that from this job: 248 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:39,280 that the rules are clear. Black is black and white is white. 249 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,040 There's no room for: "I think..." Everything is written. 250 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,600 There are laws and rules. 251 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,800 I think that we have 252 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,720 a pretty good ground to work on. 253 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,640 Our work follows legal regulations. 254 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,280 There's an officer who is authorized to make decisions. 255 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,040 And then it is always about 256 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,480 treating 257 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,080 people with respect, as simple as that. 258 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,000 We prison officers have a big responsibility: 259 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,280 to identify problems correctly at a very early stage: 260 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,600 "What problems does this inmate have?" 261 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,120 And we have to do the right thing at the right time. 262 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,880 They often have very long sentences so we try and adjust our efforts 263 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,480 and see it as a timeline, so we can find the right moment... 264 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,760 in the inmate's timeline and be able to foresee the problem. 265 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,400 The inmates draw their timeline together with the staff, 266 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,920 their counselor and the department chief. 267 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,120 For instance, a program for avoiding recidivism 268 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,360 must be done towards the end, rather than in the beginning. 269 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,200 In the beginning we can focus on things 270 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,320 that can lead to stimulate his self-confidence, 271 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,560 and we also must do that, 272 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320 to lay some foundations, they can maybe take a test in high school, 273 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,200 so they can graduate. 274 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,880 From my experience, I realize there's a crisis of trust 275 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:30,560 towards certain types of authority. That's a big step we must make. 276 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,800 It may take a long time to generate trust. 277 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,720 There is no recipe for generating trust, 278 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,280 but I usually tell my staff 279 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,440 that two cornerstones for that are to dare to be honest 280 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,840 and to dare to show your feelings. 281 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,640 That is important, I think. 282 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:48,440 Our inmates live in a pretty open environment 283 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,880 for being part of a prison system or a prison milieu. 284 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,240 It's compulsory to do something. They may either work in our sawmill 285 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,960 or study in our academy 286 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,880 or do outdoors jobs, 287 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,240 which also include apiculture. 288 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,680 We have an apiary with more than 20,000 beehives 289 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,760 and we produce honey. 290 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,480 The inmates' families may come to visit them at the weekends. 291 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,760 They can visit on Saturday and Sunday, 4 or 5 at a time. 292 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,600 The visitors may roam freely around the facilities. 293 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,600 We have a playground, and also a room for children. 294 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,160 We celebrate special days with children twice a year. 295 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,400 We also organize one activity for families. 296 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,680 It may be pony rides, sometimes a bouncy castle, 297 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,160 or fantasy make up, 298 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,560 or clowns, too. Different things. 299 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,040 But all of them are suitable for the age of most kids that come. 300 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,040 We do a game of fishing and we grill outside if the weather's nice. 301 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,480 Our motto can be summed up in two words: "better outside". 302 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,120 You must be in a better condition, more skilled and resourceful 303 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,400 when you go out than when you came in. 304 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,840 I think it's a good vision. 305 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,840 That's how we welcome our inmates, and a big problem 306 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,160 that we usually detect in them are relationships, net-building skills. 307 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,160 That's why in this institution we work thoroughly 308 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040 together with non-profit groups 309 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,720 and the inmates value that, and they are truly interested. 310 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,400 We look for 311 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,360 teams covering all our groups and needs. 312 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,440 They may be all from KRIS 313 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,360 (Rehabilitation of Criminals in Society), or from the Fryshuset, 314 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,120 that works mainly with young people, counseling them. 315 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960 We have something called 316 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,640 BUFF in Stockholm, which is very good, and they also come here. 317 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Its main activity 318 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,600 is to be a meeting point for the inmates' kids. 319 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840 They come here and organize 320 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,600 training courses and debates that are very successful. 321 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,880 Those are non-profit organizations that come here 322 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,960 and that afterwards can employ inmates on probation. 323 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,240 We see great benefits in this and the inmates are very interested. 324 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,800 My name is Christer Karlsson. 325 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,080 I am an old chap now. I'm 64 years-old. 326 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,960 I have grown up in orphanages, reform schools and jails. 327 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,880 I committed burglary and small thefts 328 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160 and anything to get money, really. 329 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Anything from burglary to selling drugs, 330 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,760 and also felonies, such us armed robberies and the like. 331 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,760 I have been sentenced 54 times. 332 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,040 I've spent more than 30 years in penitentiaries and jails. 333 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,800 I am the founder and president of this organization. 334 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,080 I found out that I really despised authority. 335 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,760 I hated authority. I hated policemen, prison officers, 336 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,440 emergency services, Social Security. I hated all of them. 337 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,360 Then I thought it might be me who was wrong. 338 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,560 Normal people do not hate the people that help them. 339 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,200 That's how I thought of starting an association for people like me. 340 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,280 People who, instead of having to call the emergency services, 341 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,320 can ask the association for help. 342 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,520 That's how the idea came about. 343 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,400 I met KRIS when I was in jail. 344 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,280 I told them that I wanted to change my life 345 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,080 and I asked them what could they do for me. 346 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,280 We talked about my problems 347 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,960 and of how could I be useful to them. 348 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240 That's when they said: "Come to our office. 349 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,000 We will train you, and maybe we will hire you afterwards. 350 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,840 We might be interested on a guy like you." 351 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,440 And so it happened. I've worked for KRIS since April 20th 2013. 352 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,720 This is my third year. 353 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,760 Hadn't it been for KRIS, I don't know where I'd be right now. 354 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,080 I'm the leader of KRIS' mothers group. 355 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,080 We have a project together with the Legacy Fund 356 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,280 called Strengthened Parenthood. 357 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,320 I work as the leader of a group of mothers. 358 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,960 We motivate young mothers 359 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,560 to keep on living a honest, drug-free life. 360 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,760 We do activities with the mothers and their children. 361 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,560 The fathers are also welcome, of course, and some of them are... 362 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,240 How can I say that? There are fathers who are present. 363 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400 Unfortunately, that's unusual. 364 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,440 Some mothers maybe got pregnant while working on the streets 365 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,160 and the father is not present. 366 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,600 It's very important for those girls to get support. 367 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,480 From socials services or from somewhere else. 368 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,800 That is my job. 369 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:11,960 We work with motivation. Our goal is motivating them. 370 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,560 But we don't go to a prison and say: "This is what we'll do now." 371 00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:21,400 Sometimes it's enough if you just chat with them for a while 372 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,840 in order to verify how they are, in which point they are. 373 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,480 Sometimes you can talk a little about football. 374 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,680 Or just sit there, because I remember when I used to meet 375 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,160 the guys from KRIS, and what I liked the most about them 376 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,160 is that they didn't try to sell me anything. 377 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,880 They did not want to tell me what I should do. 378 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,800 They just came in and bought you a coffee and a bum. 379 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,440 We had no one else to talk to 380 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,040 in jail apart from them and the prison officers. 381 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,000 I have visited many prisons now. 382 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,200 Now I am giving back what KRIS gave me then. 383 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,960 I am visiting prisons now, and I try to motivate people 384 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,280 and to tell them they can follow another path, if they want. 385 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,240 It's very nice, because that's how I met KRIS. 386 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,160 So I have come full circle. 387 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,440 It's also our aim 388 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,720 for those who are set free to start working, be self-confident 389 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,920 and do well by themselves. 390 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:25,720 We don't want them to be a burden for society, 391 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,720 we want people to come back 392 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,400 and to be productive members of society, 393 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,000 people who work, pay taxes, have a family and live a normal life, 394 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,280 far from crime and free of drugs. 395 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,280 I think that is also depends a lot 396 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,480 on how the police in other countries behaves with the criminals, 397 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:03,160 if they understand they're people. In Sweden we understand more 398 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,840 that there are people behind the acts, 399 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,400 and you can condemn those acts, but you must use the person 400 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,240 and help that person so he won't commit those acts. 401 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,920 Our work is finding the person behind, 402 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,720 to try and give him moral support, so instead of punching someone 403 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,920 to feel safe and respected, 404 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,800 he will know that he can do that 405 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,600 in a good, trustworthy and compassionate way 406 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,720 I have a daughter named Emilia, 407 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,720 who is one year and a week old. 408 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,160 When I found out I thought it was awesome. 409 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,760 I felt that I could be a father now. 410 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:18,240 She won't have to go through what I went through with an absent father, 411 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,160 with a father in jail and with all that unsteadiness. 412 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,720 I could give my daughter that assurance and I felt 413 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,520 so self-confident as a person that I knew 414 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,640 that I would not do drugs or go to jail again. 415 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,000 I think I will be a good father. 416 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,440 I cannot see who else could help me. 417 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,120 If I want to start a new life, 418 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,920 to give up drugs, to stop committing crimes, 419 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,800 it must be me the one who's willing to do that effort. 420 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,040 Nobody can do that for me. 421 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,760 Often, in that situation, you expect someone to solve your problems: 422 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,480 "They ought to do this or that for me". 423 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,480 But it's you who ought to do it. 424 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:12,520 This protects me. My tattoos are all religious. Look. 425 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,840 This protects me. 426 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,280 Sometimes I say, "How can this happen to me? 427 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,520 God does not exist, for sure." 428 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,480 But I have the answer at hand if I look back on my life. 429 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,760 I have survived an overdose. I've lived dangerous situations. 430 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,280 And... and... 431 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,240 I also have grown up as a person and stuff happened in my life. 432 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,120 For me to be able to grow up as a person, 433 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,560 stuff had to happen 434 00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:51,680 so I could realize and become the person that I am today. 435 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,880 So, of course it's true 436 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,520 that God works in mysterious ways, as they say. 437 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,960 Of course he does.